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Old 09-12-2019, 09:54 PM   #121
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So the past couple weeks have seen a major lower leaf ejection from S. Repens, H. Araguaia, A.R. Mini, and H. Pinnatifida. This is the second time for the S. Repens not too far apart. It's a major PITA with the overflow clogging, I resort to taking out the steel mesh insert and letting the leaves go into the pre filter which mitigates a flood.

That's no big deal and is easy to clean every couple days but the shrimp are also free to make it through and are drawn to the decomposing leaves. If anyone knows a method of separating leaves from shrimp in an overflow....just take my money now!

After ignoring the situation in the overflow for a while I saw the shrimp had eaten a ton of leaves on the sponge. The sponge should have been basically clogged but only a fraction was there.

At the same time both the L. Pantanal and R. wallichii immediately stunted hard. Sorta frustrating since my last update had some of the best growth I've seen in this tank.


I did some testing and based on the plant colour I knew the NO3 was low so I did a one time dose. Ignored it for another week.
H. Pinnatifida was getting extreme pinholes and losing leaves so I threw in some K since I have been slowly reducing it. The bump in No3 sped up the growth of all the plants but also the algae.

Still looked decent even through it had some problems.


I got fed up with leaves and shrimp so I hacked everything back that was a culprit. The monte carlo was overgrown and I promised to give a local some so shortly after it got leveled too.

I actually felt alot better with this

Some plants were were doing just fine. R. Mac. Caterpillar


I knew I trimmed the monte Carlo too short and there was alot of dead but I left it in just to see. The shrimp ate it but also resulted in roots bulding up in the overflow so I just ripped it all out and finally did a good vacuum of the front substrate.

As it sits today.


Something needs done with this...but I'm ignoring it still.


The Glandulosa is on the mend, Pantanal might be a goner and wallichii shows promise. I find it interesting that the Pantanal and wallichii are on the same schedule, when one stunts so does the other. I can't confirm it's wallichii forsure though, it was a mislabled AFA tissue culture (Rotala sp. Vietnam) I think.

I have just gone back to the very 1st edition of remineralizer, the ever changing water conditions continue. Next macros will be with KNO3, just don't like how the calcium nitrate mixes. I had 1 week where everything was happy...I have no idea why though lol.
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Old 09-14-2019, 02:11 AM   #122
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I really admire how you maintain your tank man. I love your plants. Thanks again for your P. eructus. it is the jewel of my tank. I finally lost the ability to grow things like wallichi and R. macranda in my tank. I think my ADA substrate is loosing it's buffering capacity now that the tank has been set up for over a year and my tap water is extremely high GH & high pH. Do you ever consider changing the substrate since your tank has been setup? what would you even do for a tank that size? Root sticks or a new layer of Amazonia?
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I really admire how you maintain your tank man. I love your plants. Thanks again for your P. eructus. it is the jewel of my tank. I finally lost the ability to grow things like wallichi and R. macranda in my tank. I think my ADA substrate is loosing it's buffering capacity now that the tank has been set up for over a year and my tap water is extremely high GH & high pH. Do you ever consider changing the substrate since your tank has been setup? what would you even do for a tank that size? Root sticks or a new layer of Amazonia?
Thanks and I'm glad the plants are doing well for you. P. Erectus is one of my favorites too. Wallichii is a mystery to me but Macrandra is an absolute weed. Test your KH if you can and see how much your substrate is used up. All 3 of those plants should like a similar environment.

I certainly have thought about adding some fresh aqua soil or root tabs, I might take the opportunity before planting the carpet again. I have an open bag of Tropica soil and will just dumb it in using the inverted pop bottle trick to catch all the dust. Tropica soil doesn't release ammonia as far as I can tell from when I set it up so shouldn't be a big deal.

I'm using RO that's at 5GH and 1KH, also started fertilizing a bit early so the substrate may go a little further then with your tap water. I would guess you're right and the soil has lost it's ability to buffer the KH down which all 3 of those plants are easier to grow with lower KH. I'm curious what your dosing is like for macro and micro fertilizer?
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Honestly i have pretty much stopped dosing. Almost 2 months ago (IIRC) I inserted 4 Seachem root tabs into the back part of the tank (stem plants). I also had some issues with staghorn algae growing all over the leaves of my plants. I read that excess iron causes it, so I stopped dosing flourish iron. My current fert regime is : 1 pump of tropica premium nutrition (green liquid: macros + micro) once a week right after a 50% water change. What would u recommend ? I have a set of test kit strips..would those parameters help to suggest dosing?
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A little rainy day trim job after almost 3 weeks neglect. TDS was creeping up and a bit of algae but that's to be expected. Fish are still skiddish unfortunately, most plants are fighting off the GSA (which is nice) but rocks tell a different story. L. Glandulosa has been shedding lower leaves so hopefully after the trim it stops. Thinking about running all 8 tubes for only 4 hours or giving a midday burst for an hour. Having a 4 hour light cycle will give some incentive to make a LED light bar that I've been meaning to.
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Honestly i have pretty much stopped dosing. Almost 2 months ago (IIRC) I inserted 4 Seachem root tabs into the back part of the tank (stem plants). I also had some issues with staghorn algae growing all over the leaves of my plants. I read that excess iron causes it, so I stopped dosing flourish iron. My current fert regime is : 1 pump of tropica premium nutrition (green liquid: macros + micro) once a week right after a 50% water change. What would u recommend ? I have a set of test kit strips..would those parameters help to suggest dosing?
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Lean dosing is probably better with high KH tap water and the macrandra/wallichii/erectus species. They tend to not grow very well in high KH but seem to do better when given minimal nutrients in the water column. When the aquasoil was new it buffered the KH and those plants arn't as picky with low KH. It also was a rich substrate which those specific plants seem to prefer with high KH water. That being said Tropica are pretty lean fertilizers and I might try adding 1 pump every day since your tank is heavily planted. If you can test nitrates, use it to see if your dosing is too much or too little. The only other fertilizer your not adding is magnesium since your tap water GH is mainly calcium I would suspect. Adding a bit of epsom salt (MgSO4) should help if thats the case. 1/2tsp + 1/8tsp = 5ppm Mg in your tank. You can dose that once per week if you want. With tap water it's best to try and find a water report for your specific source, that way you can try to add what you need. A weekly water change will help keep accumulation down.

Easy solution, add more aquasoil and try to minimize the ammonia the first week. I found Tropica soil to not leach ammonia FWIW.
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Growth seems to have sped up considerably for P. Erectus and Mermaid weed. Nitrates were creeping up after an excessive feeding (I think that was the cause). Instead of changing the dosing I just did a midweek water change. I scraped the Calcium nitrate and made new macros that now include KN03, KH2PO4, MgSO4, and K2S04. I had extreme pinholes in H. Pinnatifida and H. Corymbosa compact, this mix seems to be helping that out a bit.

I also added a 30minute burst of all 8 bulbs at mid day to experiment.

Pantanal is long gone (died off) and just removed the Heteranthera Zosterfolia, added in Tonina Fluviatilis, UG, and Eriocaulon King Crimson.

Removed all the Glandulosa from the left front, I always cram too many in and it drops leaves from being shaded. It grows better near the centre and will keep those.
Not final by any means, left the Monte Carlo up the centre rear for now not to make too much of a mess. I want to move stuff around a bit until I find another centerpiece plant like Ludwigia white or Nesaea pedicellata. Added a bit of fresh Tropica aquarium soil for all three new plants.

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