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Old 12-07-2016, 10:36 PM   #1
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Default Goldfish breeding - Traditional Chinese lionheads

Over the last 20 years or so, goldfish hobbyists have turned to ranchus such that nowadays the traditional Chinese lionheads are hard to find. So, I decided to find some and bring back this breed. I purchased some mature lionheads from The Fish Sempai and 3 weeks later a female laid eggs. The fry just finished hatching today.
Incubation time 84 hours + at 70 F. A very small number of eggs fungussed.
Three of them are the parents and lots of their offsprings!
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Old 12-10-2016, 10:11 AM   #3
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Thats amazing Your the first person I've heard of breeding goldfish Will goldfish eat their own eggs/fry?
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There might not be many Canadians who plan or make it a regular project to breed goldfish. In fact, I know only a handful. Concerning eggs and fry, goldfish will eat all and almost anything.
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A few question for you
How to recognized the different between a female and a male?
What do you do when the female start to laid eggs in the tank?
Could you please explain your metheod of breeding gold fish
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This is an easier way to answer your first question:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tmKkuf9_5CU

Now, for your other questions, you need to know if you want to breed and mostly take care of the fry before you take such a project.

If you have no plan to breed, let the fish eat the eggs. If you do, you need to be prepared to collect the eggs.

There are 3 ways to collect eggs:
- let fish spawn and remove the fish when done
- have spawning mops prepared in advance and remove mops when fish have laid in them
- perform hand spawning by stripping males and females.

I have done all 3 but mostly hand spawning now.
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Do you recomend buying a group of fishes or just a pair?Could you explained your methoed of separating the eggs so they dont get eating by the parent.
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I would recommend buying a group of 5-6 fish of the same variety for several reasons. Many hobbyists don't know how to sex goldfish. A group of six gives you a good chance of having at least one of each gender. Finally, if you breed over several generations, it's better to have genetic diversity.

Concerning my method of separating eggs from parent fish, I already did in my previous post. Removing the spawning fish, removing the mops which hold the eggs to another tank/basin, handspawning the parents in a separate basin.
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Gerard I am trying to understand your explanation
Removing the spawning fish, removing the mops which hold the eggs to another tank/basin, handspawning the parents in a separate basin.
Could you explained in details.I got the most parts Removing the spawning fish, removing the mops which hold the eggs to another tank/basin,
BUt I dont understand this part (handspawning the parents in a separate basin.)
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Pictures are worth a thousand words. Here is a tutorial of hand breeding or hand spawning:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=58XMfkFOtwQ

I mostly use this method now (method 3).

Method 1: You need to have another tank. You let the fish finish their chasing then you move them to the other tank leaving the eggs in the first tank to incubate.

Method 2: You need to have prepared some spawning mops in advance. Put them in the tank when the fish are ready to spawn. When they have finished spawning, move mops to another tank (with no fish). Let eggs incubate.
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