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Default's 90x50x50 FireAqua 'Colour Therapy'

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So this is a new project, I've had most of the equipment for some time now, but haven't found the opportunity to set everything up yet. However, I found some time this Sunday and found a nice spot in my basement and worked the stand and tank in. So I started experimenting with the pump placement and flow distribution.

Equipment list (so far):
- 90x50x50cm (36x20x20") rimless starphire + matching stand
- Aquatic Life Dual 39w T5HO fixture
- 10lb co2 cylinder with UP regulator
- ~17L Netlea Brown + 20L Lambo Professional
- 2x Hydor Koralia Gen 3 1350

I've recently been experimenting with the threshold of a filter-less high tech planted aquarium, and I've had great success - with the right ratio/balance of fauna to flora. This new project will be filter-less and I may consider adding a canister later on when I decide what the fauna line-up will be. So far, I'm gonna be blasting everything with the new gen 3 1350s I picked up, it's a little powerful even with the diffuser attachment, but it's one cool looking wave maker.

The scape is still in the works, but stone selections have been made - flora list is quite large atm and growing, but still playing with the species and placement in my head. This will most likely be similar to my experiment tank, a hybrid dutch.

A quick teaser, stay tuned!

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Nice I'm looking forward to seeing this project. Never heard of a high tech filterless setup before
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Hardscape update

So I got to spend some time - a little too much time - earlier to play with the hardscape of the tank. I ran a little low on stones I had on hand, but I managed to utilize two types of stones that had similar colours and patterns; Dragon Stone and Petrified Wood. I'm not 100% happy with how it looks at the moment, so I'll see how I feel about it later, but it has some nice features already and I would like to see how it would look planted.

As of now, ~31L of aquasoil has been used and ~30 lbs of stones. The layout as of now is going to act more as a guideline for this hybrid Dutch, the pictures don't quite capture how it truly looks with all the lights and shadows, it makes the layout look flat. The combination of flat and pocketed stones is working out better than I originally expected, it's adding a interesting cliff/step look, but doesn't look too out of place among the more dominant Dragon Stones. I like the citadel look of the three stones on top, but on some angles it looks a little odd, but the moss and plants will definitely soften the edges.

Let me know what you guys think.











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Looks awesome so far. I will follow this build even though I'm a reef guy. Your tanks are wicked!
I love it! Dragonstone is my favorite. Going to be following this too :)
the rock placement is nice. Depending on what your planting, some spots in between the back row of rocks may prove difficult to plant. But yeah I like the way you have it arranged

I'm still wondering how your going to run this filter-less. Everything I've read and experienced suggests that good filtration and good flow are essential for a high tech tank. I'm not criticizing your methods as even from the brief chats we've had it's obvious that your knowledge and experience with planted tanks far out weighs mine, I'm just curious is all.
Looks awesome so far. I will follow this build even though I'm a reef guy. Your tanks are wicked!
I love it! Dragonstone is my favorite. Going to be following this too :)
Thanks! Stay tuned for when it's planted!
the rock placement is nice. Depending on what your planting, some spots in between the back row of rocks may prove difficult to plant. But yeah I like the way you have it arranged

I'm still wondering how your going to run this filter-less. Everything I've read and experienced suggests that good filtration and good flow are essential for a high tech tank. I'm not criticizing your methods as even from the brief chats we've had it's obvious that your knowledge and experience with planted tanks far out weighs mine, I'm just curious is all.
Curiosity will progress us further! Most aquarist will suggest running filters on any tank - which is true, it does provide good bio + mechanical filtration and the ability to have chemical filtration when needed.
However, in the high tech planted aquarium, the sheer volume of plants will provide a huge surface area for biological filtration - especially when plants are capable of utilizing ammonium as their nitrogen source.

The only reason why I may add a canister later on would be for the mechanical filtration, although it makes a very small difference, it nonetheless will remove coarse and fine particulates. However, the tank will initially be filter-less, it's just one less thing to worry about or clean. Plus, there won't be much in terms of fauna aside from cleaners for the first few weeks anyways. Potential stocking may be angels, festivums, or dwarf cichlids - when the tank is ready, I may consider adding a canister!
Dude really nice! I'm glad you spent a bit more to get the 50x50cm to fit the stand perfectly.
Dude really nice! I'm glad you spent a bit more to get the 50x50cm to fit the stand perfectly.
Thanks man, the price wasn't much of a concern, I just personally liked the 45x45cm for the height. However, this size is growing on me, it's my cube - just 80% longer :p lol.
So I drafted up a quick plant placement on PS to see whether the idea would look alright. The colours are just estimates at this point.
Some numbers are hard to see, I'm tired and was scribbling with the stylus, so bear with me :p.
Opinions welcomed!

1. Hygrophila Araguaia
2. Gratiola Viscidula
3. Pogostemon Helferi
4. Lobelia Cardinalis 'Dwarf'
5. Alternanthera Reineckii 'Mini'
6. Alternanthera Reineckii 'Rosanervig'
7. Bacopa Caroliniana
8. Bacopa Myriophylloides
9. Microsorum Pteropus 'Trident'
10. Ludwigia Arcuata
11. Limnophila Sessiliflora
12. Rotala Macrandra
13. Rotala sp. Green
14. Rotala Wallichii

Potential additions:
Fissidens Fontanus
Riccardia Chamedryfolia
Blyxa Japonica
Salvinia Minima
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Quick update, tank is 80% planted. Both pumps are in place, so the circulation is totaling 2100 gph, the flow in the tank is ridiculous.



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That's crazy flow defult. Most guys go for a turnover of 10x that's around 50x. You're in saltwater territory bud.

The plant and rock placement looks really good btw
That's crazy flow defult. Most guys go for a turnover of 10x that's around 50x. You're in saltwater territory bud.

The plant and rock placement looks really good btw
Thanks man! I'm not liking it now that it's flooded, but I'm sure once it fills in I'll start liking it more.

The turn over right now is 35x, insanely high for planted tanks, but I've been experimenting with really high flows and most plants seem to grow better in very high flow areas over medium-lower areas. The flow minimizes any settling and maximizes nutrient distribution. This tank will be an experiment with high flow and a new fertilization mixture I'm creating that will spike in certain elements.
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Quick update - it's been planted for a couple days now and the plants have straightened out. There were initially a few stubborn floating stems, but the plants look pretty happy now, this tank also saw it's first water change tonight.
There is also noticeable growth on; Rotala Macrandra, Rotala sp. Green, Rotala Wallichi, Ludwigia Arcuata, and Limnophila Sessiliflora.





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Quick update as I added a new equipment. Plants are still filling in, the first trim may be needed soon.

I got a good deal on a new Eheim 2215 and decided to set it up on this tank, I was very happy with the filter-less tank so far, but just figured I might as well cycle the filter now - however, I'm still not certain of stocking; a large school of Cardinal Tetras or Harlequin Rasboras would be pretty nice in this setup. So now my turnover is slighting over 37 times per hour, plants seem to be loving it.

Also, one of the plants is showing some colours I haven't noticed before - Bacopa Myriophylloides has been growing quite well and the new growth has been maintaining a creamy-white green. If this colour is stable, it would be a very interesting plant for Dutch set ups, not many white-ish plants out there.



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nice update. Really like looking at this tank. I agree with planter, you expressed skill here not only with plant selection, but with the actual planting of each individual stem/node. When I do bunch planting, it looks un-natural at the beginning. It's either too even or too odd. But how you have done it, each stem merges with one anther very well despite early stage.

Keep up with maintenance, don't be to greedy for fast grow, keep algae away as a priority. I really want to see this tank 4-6 months later.
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