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AKA the Harbinger.

Nemesis II the pico sprang a leak. I had to retire that system and bring over the equipment.

Okay I set this up sunday night I had to get everything in it because I found the holding tank that had my corals in leaking




Neon goby has lots its mind with all the space.


Hallowe'en crab hanging out by the hammer


Scarlet legged chillaxing in the corner - or having a timeout.


Dendro Enjoying the evening.

I'll try to get a daytime shot with lights on later. its cleared up some.
 

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Gorilla crab is home and is in my holding tank. He's a big guy.
 

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Okay, after a lot of search, I found my plastic card in the bathroom. Why there - I have no idea.

Anyway, I finally built what I think is a satisfactory ATO hanger. I initially had my water level too high in the back chambers. And that ATO version had to go. The second ATO version, was magnetic, but that interfered with the switch. So the third one was when I found my plastic card, and I was able to make a hanger - relatively sturdy, with a water feed hole to hold the hose.

It took me a couple shots to find the right level.


the hanger. the black part is not attached, that is what holds the ato - it is original to my pico's system.


Looking straight down. I fed the hose in until it just no longer tinkled on the switch.


I will be re-doing my light fixture's power sometime shortly.
 

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November 8th. 12:16pm

Yeah I know, usually my posts are like at 12am, this can still happen. tonight after work is maintenance night. I work as a cook in a restaurant, and well, we get off late. I generally prefer it because I don't do early days very well.

This tank will have been running for two weeks tonight. So far I will go over what I have seen in changes and relate them to the previous system and hypothesise what went wrong.

First of all, my mag is extremely low. I am waiting for my IM media basket that also has the mag. I had hoped it would arrive on friday - which was my birthday. But it will probably arrive tomorrow, which sucks because I am going out. I hope I can pick it up in the evening from the post office.

My hardness is rather high. I don't have an RO water supply, so unfortunately I do use tap. Bringing in RO or premixed water is barely an option as I do not have a car. I have a bicycle. Yes it has a trailer, but as I live in an apartment; storing loads of water is not exactly easy. RO system is expensive - it is something I would like to get, but I think that will have to come later. I don't know if there is anything out there I can simply connect up to the tap and run and disconnect later.

Livestock changes:
I am losing one zoanthid as far as I can tell - it may have a single polyp still. It got seriously faded in the pico. I am not sure why exactly but now once again I suspect light. The dimensions of this new tank is the same width (approx) but a bit wider, and higher. I reckon that the lights were dimmed so much the corals were not actually getting enough light, and any higher they would burn. Stuff appeared to just survive. I don't know what the difference between the pico's reboot and the first run because in the first run, stuff seemed to grow intensely well. SPS was somewhat problematic. That is why I avoided them this[the retired pico] time around. I am considering sps again, but only once I get my mag up and my calcium stabilised.

After the shock of tank transplant, all my zoanthids opened up. Including some that had closed just prior to the leak and started to shrink. Some of my zoas had shrunk really tiny, but now htey have opened up and are 50% larger and growing. Others are already starting to look like they are growing new heads and a few - my nuclear green paly, appear to be recovering their spectacular green. incidentally they are no longer stretching for light, But short flat and happy. The signs were there before, but I did not understand them.

the only thing that seems to be stretching for some light is my rockflower and that is because while the move was in progress, she planted her ass on what would be the backside (darkside) of a rock. She'll move I hope. I just hope not on top of my zoas. Only other AWOL creature is my blood red Carpet. I know where she is, and I hope she moves out from there because, she cost enough, and I really would like to see her.

I had taken damage to my Blastomussa during the leak incident. I had no place to really hold the head and I think with it laying on the side, one of the heads started to die off and started to kill another one, I dipped it for a while and it appears to have recovered beautifully. There is still the lost head, but at the rate this guy grows, that won't be a problem in short order. I count at least 7 heads that are big and puffy. I started out with one. I know more had developed, but they might not have done as well as the survivors.

The fish seems happier even.

The condition of my new 10 was I dismantle my old 10. the old 10 was not doing well, and i could not enjoy it as much. I had my inverts in there because they were too large for the pico. All inverts are now in my Nemesis III except the gorilla crab that is enjoying life in the 7.

The third large main rock I need to attach better. I have to go buy some marine putty. And then, and only then, will I add corals to it. But right this moment my gorgeous Hallowe'en Hermit crab is having a walk across it.

It just looks so beautiful and I could not be happier in the moring when I get up, to see the lights on and it looking like a shining jewel.

I am researching chemipure right now and considering it as media for my incoming media basket. That should arrive Monday or tuesday.


Extreme forground: Gorgonian, middle, Rockflower, top left, Metalic GSP, Zoanthid: armour of gods (I think)



Dendros, Trumpet, and zoanthids. Thhe smalls ones are the recovering ones.







as I was writing this post, and I cross posted it on nano reef, my blood red carpet nem decided to drift to a new location. I shut the pumps down, and stuffed her in a spot. she remained there.

 

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I used chemipure blue in the media baskets, along with filter floss and either polypad or carbon.

My advice would be to either secure RO water, or preferably buy a R/O system as soon as possible. Expensive is a relative term here, I am sure you have spent more on the tank's livestock than the cost of the R/O system. Having consistent water saves you the hassle of trying to troubleshoot around the problem (the quality of the water), which ends up costing you money and time. The longer you go without, the more problems will pop up.
 

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the question I have what is the smallest system I can have in an apartment? Is it something I can drag out and use when I need it, and if so where on earth do I find one?
 

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Could you suggest a brand I can look into?
 

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Any 4 stage unit will do, you don't need more. Most units are pretty much the same thing except some have more features. An inline TDS meter is a must and a booster pump is nice to have.... I use the Vertex Puratek. It has it all feature wise.
You really do need an RODI unit, it ought to be the very first thing on the list. Without it and you are either buying water all the time or worse using tap water and setting yourself up to fail.
Look for a used unit, you can replace the membrain, DI and sediment filters if needed.
Watch the classifieds. You should be able to get yourself set up for $100-150... It will pay for itself pretty quick.
I used to live in a small apartment , I would just hook my unit up to the kitchen sink once a week to make water . There is a 5 dollar adapter for the sink.
 

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I was watching some vids on it. I will set aside some money to buy me a rodi. I have told my husband it could be beneficial to use for wine making or beer making :p In the mean time I may get 10 gallons from the health store down the road next week. I now fully understand the reason for using it, and my husband also understands why this is useful. I just purchased a koralia nano 240, but I will see what is left after this paycheck and my primary bills paid.

Outside of using craigslist, where else coudl I find one? Home Depot?
 

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There are a number of threads on here about the cheapest best place to buy a unit locally.... for sure it is not Home Depot!!! I am on my phone or I would dig
a thread up for you, try the search function.

they come up all the time in the classsifieds here...


Before I had a unit I would buy 5 gallon jugs at Loblaws. I would be the Distilled water.
 

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its not that I like to pay more, but usually I go to where the easiest location is. I ride a bike so if its on my route and is easily arrived at, that's where i will go.
 

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Anything with membrane + 3 stages from a reef store should be fine. You shouldn't be buying your unit from anywhere else. Used units are generally a bad option, as the membranes are expensive to replace, it's usually the same as buying new.

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Bulk reef depot has one you can order online
 

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I will look around. I need to save up some money first though. ARE things like TDS meters and whatnot interchangeable between systems? I was thinking buying parts for hte device a head of time and storing htem until I have enough saved up for the main system. I know it sounds funny doing it that way, but I have a savings accoutn I borrow from. I have to pay myself back later. The other things is, I am waiting for elections canada to pay me for my work during the election.
 

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I bought mine at bulkreefsupply.

I got the RO/DI unit with a water holding tank for drinking water. It has been really good.

And you are just in time for black friday deals that should start next week (i think) - i would check our BRS
 

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I will look around. I need to save up some money first though. ARE things like TDS meters and whatnot interchangeable between systems? I was thinking buying parts for hte device a head of time and storing htem until I have enough saved up for the main system.
A TDS meter is $20. The unit is one piece and you can't really break up the cost. You'd be better off selling some coral or fish and getting your R/O system ASAP, rather than keeping the livestock in tap water while you save up.
 

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I was using the RO from Loblaw at $3 per 5 gallon with my 8 gallon tank before I upgraded. One refill lasts me for 1 month.

When I upgraded to 40g, I ordered a unit here - http://www.aquasafecanada.com/products/aquarium-ii-7-stage-ro-di-system.html

I cancelled my order when I saw another hobbyist selling the same unit for a better price. (+1 to buying from another hobbyist)

You can try Kijiji, but the prices are usually higher than the prices in this forum (different target market).

I was watching some vids on it. I will set aside some money to buy me a rodi. I have told my husband it could be beneficial to use for wine making or beer making :p In the mean time I may get 10 gallons from the health store down the road next week. I now fully understand the reason for using it, and my husband also understands why this is useful. I just purchased a koralia nano 240, but I will see what is left after this paycheck and my primary bills paid.

Outside of using craigslist, where else coudl I find one? Home Depot?
 

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Fyi for anyone without their own RODI unit, using distilled water is significantly better than using RO water that had not been deionized. Also, RO units with more than the membrane and 3 stages don't provide much benefit and the filter replacement costs are much higher in the long run.

There is also some learning you do with the machine, like if you were to run hot water through it you would have to replace everything including the membranes. If you don't change your 3 stages every 6 months, you will have to replace your significantly more expensive membrane that can otherwise last years.
 

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This is the one I bought for my 120g. I wanted something with a holding tank. I installed it under my kitchen sink. I added an inline TDS meter which shows quality of water in and water out. Then I simply added a DI cartridge. My water now goes from about 144TDS to 0. This brand/company (iSpring) sells direct but I found it a little cheaper for the system on amazon.

http://www.amazon.ca/iSpring-RCC7-L...d_cp_60_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=045M0TJ9DBBDW81J3YYV

For something smaller which you can store and just hook up to a faucet when you need it, this might be good.
http://www.amazon.ca/iSpring-CKC2-3...f=sr_1_28?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1447431082&sr=1-28

Amazon may be good for you because they ship right to your door. If you go with DI, keep an eye out for Resin refills.
 

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You can also get distilled water for Loblaw but more expensive - I think about $7 per 5 gallons.

I have an extra TDS which you can have for $10. You don't actually need one if you're getting prepared water and if you buy an RO/DI unit, they usually include a TDS meter.

Here is a shot of my RO/DI. It's worth every penny. My run-off goes to the washing machine.

 
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